Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 20:52:54 +0100
From: Rene Tschaggelar
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Subject: Re: High Voltage from car parts. Help me please.
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Michael Painter wrote:
> "Rene Tschaggelar" wrote in message
>>> I am working on a "lifter" project (details at
>>>First, I tried powering my lifter with a monitor, but burned up some
>>>of the components. Then my dad put together my current power source,
>>>a 12 volt battery running a distributor that drives a car ignition
>>>coil. Unfortunately, my lifter still didn't lift. For weeks, I
>>>worked on getting my design lighter. I am under 2 grams now for 36
>>>inches of lifting surface, and have *almost* achieved lift. The
>>>device skitters a bit across the table, and when suspended from the
>>>ceiling moves sideways enthusiastically. Unfortunately, I don't see
>>>any way to remove more weight. The foil doesn't even have balsa wood
>>>under it anymore, it is supported by its own curve and the tension of
>>>the top wires. My dad and I began investigating our power source, and
>>>found it might have some issues. Here are a few questions:
>>>C) Any other suggestions for improving this power source?
>>Almost 20 years ago we tried a similar experiment, different geometry.
>>We had a friend working at a high voltage lab who found our tries
>>interesting. With capacitors in the region of 1 m^2 we couldn't measure
>>any force up to the breakthrough voltage of some 50 to 70kV.
>>While we never believed in a measureable effect, we found the
>>introduction into the high voltage technology rather interesting.
> A google search on lifter yields quite a few pertinent hits.
> http://pages.prodigy.net/bpool/ seems the only one that is looking at it in
> a serious manner. They even mention the power supply and need for a high
> voltage and ground wires near the device.
We built that stuff before the internet took off.
And we had the power supplies, short of a picture, the ones
with the 5m high columns. I forgot the specs, 400kV perhaps,
and even at 70kV the thunder of the breakthrough was deafening.
At daytime they used this lab to develop and test gear related to high
voltage generation and distribution.