From: Spehro Pefhany
Subject: Re: Absolute Minimum Development System for PIC12C5XX
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 18:39:40 GMT
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On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 18:07:22 +0000, the renowned Mike Harrison
>>>3) PC-based programmer USB/Serial/Parallel port either/or-everything
>>>ready to go- no kits-
>>Picstart+ from Microchip. It's NOT a production programmer, you can
>>not count on it reliably programming stuff you will ship, but for
>>development it's more than okay. But, if you complain to Microchip
>>about it, they'll tell you to buy a PROM MATE, which costs $$$ and
>>requires module$ for different chips.
>..but a universal programmer will usually program all the Microchip parts AND lots of other
>people's, and probably cost less.
Agree with the first part, but I think the cost would be at least
double for a universal programmer, even paying list for the
Microchip's. I'm assuming we're talking aobut a first-tier universal
producton programmer where Microchip has certified (or whatever the
word is) the programmer,not the low-end universal types which you can
get for < 1K.
>If you stick with the 12C5xx, you'll be doing simulation, EPROM
>>erasure (minutes), programming (seconds), crash-and-burn. Fine for a
>>hobbyist, but a little expensive for a professional. IMO, either shell
>>out for an ICE2000 (ICE4000 coming RSN) .
>Any news on what ICE4000 will do (apart from presumably using USB)?
I don't recall much, and I'm not going to pull up the info to look
just now, but IIRC, the big deal was faster emulation of the 18F parts
(full speed, finally) and it should handle the unobtanium DSPic parts.
Could be wrong, just from memory.
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