From: Mark Fergerson
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Subject: Re: Unusual Weather in Phoenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:53:47 GMT
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Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:26:19 GMT,
> "Mike" ,
> In Newsgroup: sci.electronics.cad,
> Article: ,
> Entitled: "Re: Unusual Weather in Phoenix",
> Wrote the following:
> |"Paul Wylie" wrote in message
> |> In alt.primenet.recovery Mike wrote:
> |> > And why no eves (roof overhang)?
> |> It depends where you were looking. Most of the nicer houses here have
> |> stucco exteriors, and exposed wood usually doesn't go with that look.
> |> Wood here is also a maintenance issue, but not so much because of termites
> |> or fire concerns, but because the strong UV here really kills almost
> |> anything and wood dries out very badly in direct sunlight.
Slight quibble; termites are a real problem in some parts
of the valley.
> |> Houses here do have eaves (small ones). Mine does. Not all of them do,
> |> though. The Spanish stucco architecture favored in a lot of neighborhoods
> |> usually doesn't lend itself to eaves, and quite frankly, they're pretty
> |> much unnecessary here. We get 7"-8" of rain in an average year (last
> |> year, we only got 2.25") and snow is unheard of. Houses in Phoenix also
> |> usually don't have basements or rain gutters.
> |You know, the other question I was going to ask was about those rain gutters
> |in Jim's photos...
> |-- Mike --
> That particular portion of the roof-line was prone to dribbling down
> the stucco, staining it. So I made the builder put rain gutters
Another thing people forget about deserts is that when it
_does_ rain here, it doesn't fool around. We get some of the
fiercest thunderstorms I've ever seen or heard of here. You
don't need gutters or eaves year-round, or even every year,
but when you _do_ need them, they're nice to have.
Jim, remember what spring rains were like before the
storm drains along Central Avenue were enlarged? A friend
told me about nearly losing his wife in _six feet_ of water
at Central and Washington ca. 1972.
Remember all the bridges washing out on the Salt, except
the Old Tempe and the Central Avenue bridges? At the time I
thought it was evidence of poor engineering, until I found
out those were the only two anchored in bedrock. (For those
who care, bedrock is typically 300-600 feet down in the
Valley; the two bridges are actually anchored in "peaks"
rising from the Valley floor.)
BTW, do you know where I can find a topo map of the
Valley floor (under all that silt) online?
Mark L. Fergerson