Reply-To: "Kevin Aylward"
From: "Kevin Aylward"
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Subject: Re: Transistor amplifiers v. frequency in SPICE
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:01:38 -0000
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Mike Monett wrote:
> Paul Burridge wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:19:44 -0500, Mike Monett
>> opined thusly:
>>> Try Microcap. The free version is limited to 50 nodes or so, but
>>> that's more than plenty for most things. You will like the error
>>> handling and schematic entry. It's very fast and very easy, and
>>> fully integrated so you don't have to load and unload separate
>>> programs. I see they are up to version 7 now. That's two
>>> generations ahead of what I'm using, but I'm quite satisfied with
>>> version 5.
>> Okay, Mike I've noted that little lot. It's just that I feel that
>> changing versions probably isn't the way to go just yet. The fault is
>> most likely mine rather than the s/ware, which is, after all,
>> supposed to be a pro version. I'll press on for the time being and
>> see if I make better headway before dumping it and trying something
>> else. But if that day should come, I'll certainly give your
>> suggestion of Microcap the first try.
> All the SPICE versions claim they are the best.
I dont. Never have. Check my posts. There is one dude who posts here
that does claim this thogh.
Don't pay attention to
> sales hype. You want a program that is best suited to the way you
> When it came time to dump Intusoft,
>I downloaded every program I could
> find and tried some simple circuits, like a common-emitter amplifier,
> full-wave bridge rectifier, etc.
> I evaluated each one on the ease of component lookup, schematic entry,
> entering parameters in transient and ac analysis, graphical analysis
> capability (risetime, frequency, period, max, min, etc), exporting
> graphs to Windows, finding information in the help files, error
> handling, time required to enter a schematic and collect data, and
> overall ease of use.
> Microcap was the clear hands-down winner.
But this is doing the same thing as claiming that one is the "best".
This is of course, an opinion as well. I am first and foremost an
analogue designer. I have used spice for many years, and can go through
periods of 40 hours a week, months on end doing simulations. I have
checked out Microcap, and I simply don't like it. Out of maybe 20 spices
out there, I find, imo, only 3 useable ones, SuperSpice, PSpice, and
Cadence Analogue Artist.
I checked your followup post to Jim Thompsom and note that you are
limited to Windows 3.11. I would actually suggest that you try and do
somthing about this. Anyway, most of what you say about microcap is in
fact in SS (but not all)
I like Microcap because it is fully integrated. The schematic entry and
analysis are all in memory, so there's no waiting for different modules
to load and initialize.
I like the parameter setup in Microcap. I can change the analysis
options, trace color, step settings, and anything else related to the
I can view a portion of a waveform just by drawing a small box
around it, and return to a full-screen view by pressing F6.
is everything is at
your fingertips and instantly available.
Component entry is fast and painless. The components are separated into
different categories for easy selection,
Why can't you move on to XP. Its like night and day. You can actually
save to the a:\ drive whilst doing something else other than make tea.
Stability wise, its a huge improvement.
This is all how SS works.
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.