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From: "Phil Allison"
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Subject: Re: Acoustic Feedback reduction
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:59:13 +1100
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"Kevin Aylward" wrote in message
> Simon Rod. wrote:
> > "Kevin Aylward" wrote
> >>> ** Can you not see the posts from Richard and Simon Rod ?
> >>> Are you able to read them - do you see what they say ??
> >> So what. Are they musicians or DJ's?
> > I am a musician, sound engineer and an electronics technician with
> > thirty odd years professional experience.
> > Alas, I am not a DJ.
> Fair enough. So, did you here a difference in gibbos test wave file or
** Mr Gibbon *refuses* to reveal what shifter he used - that screws his
> The real issue here is the overall circumstances of the test.
The idea that one can't hear fixed 5Hz shifts at all is quite daft.
** I have not posted such a claim.
Mr Gibbon has dishonestly tried to pretend that I did.
There is way too much evidence to refute this.
** The ear can hear a 5 Hz shift in a tone - below a certain frequency.
> However, in some special> circumstances, e.g voice with, no direct mixed
sound, it may be
> acceptable, or of course, if its the sex pistols the sound is always
> indistinguishable from random noise.
** You are in NO position to comment - you have to try a high quality
unit in various situations first.
> However, if I'm playing some Steely Dan piece, and I get some guitar feed
through from the PA with a frequency shift, I'm going to notice it. Too
right I am.
** Your own amp is much louder to you than the FOH speakers - so no
Anyhow there is NO need to feed the guitar amp mic through a
shifter - normally only the vocal mics are involved since they are the
dominant source of feedback.
You are inventing unrealistic hypotheticals - reality is way
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