From: Mark McBride
Subject: Re: UPDATED -- Veterans Employment Law, a reminder -- Clip, Save and Forward
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NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 08:09:03 EDT
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 07:19:58 -0700
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 01:45:02 GMT, K Stahl wrote:
>Mark McBride wrote:
>> VFW reps, AmVet reps, VVOA reps, American Legion reps, PLEASE pass
>> this info to your members!!! And to the human resources personnel at
>> your company. There should not be ONE jobless vet who wants a job!
>> The Vietnam Era Veterans Readjustment Assistance Act of 1974 was
>> amended with the Veterans Employment Opportunities Act of 1998 (VEOA)
>> to include "recently separated veterans" and "other covered veterans."
>> A "recently separated veteran" means any veteran who served on active
>> duty in the U.S. military, ground, naval, or air service during the
>> one year period beginning on the date of such veteran's discharge or
>> release from active duty.
>> "Other protected veteran" means any other veteran who served on active
>> duty in the U.S. military, ground, naval, or air service during a war
>> or in a campaign or expedition for which a campaign badge has been
>> authorized, other than a special disabled veteran, veteran of the
>> Vietnam era, or recently separated veteran.
>Ever since I was discharged from the Navy in 1977 I have always included
>a reference to the VEVRAA in my cover letter and since leaving
>government employment in 1992 I have generally only applied with
>companies that do government work. Most vets don't even know this card
>or how to play it.
Doesn't always work Ken. I did the same exact thing on a cover letter
to Spook U, Southern version -- LSU. The university doesn't collect
any information from job applicants on their veteran status. You'll
see below. And LSU is swimming in federal money -- 10s of million$.
(You might remember how LSU fired the FBI's Person of Interest in the
Anthrax Investigation before he even started on campus?) They also
run this humongous computer project for the Dept. of Justice.
The thing about it is, I wasn't even sure I wanted the damn job. I
wanted more info, salary, hours, power, how much independence, how
much ass I'd have to kiss on a daily basis to keep the job, all the
standard stuff. I figured I'd at least get an interview and be able
give one back. Nope.
But now I'm pissed off, specifically because the more I delved into
it, the more I realized that LSU -- a former military school headed by
Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman and alma mater of "The Flying Tigers"
(Dign Hau!) et moi -- is putting vets on the back burner.
I've learned as a reporter, as a sailor in a fiberboard barracks built
in the 1940s as "temporary housing," and as a college student, unless
you've used Bengal Spray (BEST spray on the market BTW), the roaches
will scatter when you turn on the lights. (Sometimes they scatter and
circle the wagons. Let's experiment ...)
Here's the ad, as posted on the LSU web site open jobs page:
05/09/2003 or Until Filled
Office of Student Media
Required Qualifications: Bachelor's degree in accounting, business
administration, finance, or related field; ability to accurately
forecast and prepare budget projections for future operations;
knowledge and experience in performing and managing financial activity
throughout the full accounting cycle; excellent human relations
skills; knowledge and experience in the use of micro-computer
spreadsheets, database, word processing, and utility programs and
accounting software. Additional Qualifications Desired: experience
working with media and/or advertising accounts; experience in
collections; two years in accounting or business with administrative,
managerial, and supervisory skills. Responsibilities: serves as the
fiscal officer for the department, including preparing budget
forecasts, tracking expenditures and revenues, establishing and
enforcing audit controls, maintaining the department's computer-based
accounting system. Application deadline is May 9, 2003, or until
candidate is selected. An offer of employment is contingent on a
satisfactory pre-employment background check. Submit letter of
application and resume (including e-mail address) to:
XXXXXXX (Contact Person's Name)
Office of Student Media
B39 Hodges Hall
Louisiana State University
Baton Rouge, LA 70803
Phone: (225) 578-1697
Because I really don't want to post my resume here, I ask that you
just trust me when I say that I was more than qualified for this job.
I would even go so far as to say I would bet I was the most qualified
of any applicant for the job.
Below is the voluntary information the university collects from
applicants. It's verbatim from an e-mail questionnaire I received:
Thank you for your interest in the Business Manager position in the
department of Student Media. Your information has been received and
we are currently reviewing all of the applicants. If you are selected
to interview, you will be contacted with more information. Please
take a moment to fill out this applicant data information. Your
response is voluntary and will remain confidential. Your responses
will not be used in the selection process. The information is used by
the Office of Human Resource Management to gather applicant data for
federal reporting requirements. Please follow the directions and
enter your information by pressing reply with history, then press send
to email the information to HRM.
Thank you for your participation.
Department of Student Media
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION INFORMATION FORM (PER 18-1)
This information is requested to determine LSU’s compliance with civil
rights laws, and your response will not affect consideration of your
application. By providing this information, you will assist us in
assuring that this program is administered in a nondiscriminatory
PART I. Please indicate the following information by typing in your
response. The department should fill in position title/number,
and anticipated hire date.
· Applicant’s Name: Mark McBride
· Position Title / Number:Business Manager/025857
· Department:Student Media
· Anticipated Hire Date:7/1/03
[NOTE: They filled in this part above. Makes it sound like I'd already
pretty much been hired, eh?]
PART II. The following information is optional. If you do wish to
disclose, please indicate the selection to each question that applies
to you by underlining it or typing an “x” in the space to the left of
it. If you do not wish to disclose this information, please go to
1. What is your racial or ethnic heritage?
American Indian or Alaskan Native
Black (not of Hispanic origin)
White (not of Hispanic origin)
Asian or Pacific Islander
2. What is your sex?
3. How / Where did you find out about this position (If website,
please indicate site address.)
Part III. Please respond to this statement if you do not wish to
disclose any of the above information for Part II. To respond, please
underline the yes or type an “x” in the space to the left of it.
Also, type in today’s date.
I do not wish to indicate any of the above information for Part II.
To return this form please press “Reply with History” to email it to
LSU’s Office of Human Resource Management. If you are unable to
return by email please fax it to (225) 578-6571.
When I called to find out who was hired and by whom, I was told that
information was confidential and private. Standard fare from a public
university? Apparently in this case. I squeezed futher and was told
that a group of business managers from around the university
recommended another business manager who was already employed at the
university for the post. How many people had been interviewed?
Unknown. Open job posting? Yep. It was advertised on the website. The
contact person made the hiring decision but was no longer at the
university, having resigned and been succeeded by another person who
allegedly had no involvement in the hiring decision. The successor is
a white professor, former local news anchor, who's the faculty advisor
for the campus chapter of black journalists, and has lectured often on
newsroom diversity. Don't know if veterans are counted in that
definition of diversity. The names of the business managers who made
the hiring decision were confidential I was told. When I asked the
person I was speaking with what their name was, the person told me,
but when I asked for their job title, the person told me that was
private information as well, that they had meeting to attend and