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From: Fred J. McCall
Subject: Re: [NEWS]: Probe: U.S. Knew of Jet Terror Plots
Organization: is for people who don't have real work to do
:"Fred J. McCall" wrote:
:> Vince Brannigan wrote:
:> :"Fred J. McCall" wrote:
:> :> Vince Brannigan wrote:
:> :> :"Fred J. McCall" wrote:
:> :> :
:> :> :> lparker@NOSPAM.emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
:> :> :>
:> :> :> :In article <%7Ni9.firstname.lastname@example.org>,
:> :> :> : "Chris" wrote:
:> :> :> :>
:> :> :> :>The same liberal media that will take the Bush twins or Noelle Bush and hang
:> :> :> :>them in the center of town because they have had a couple of beers (in the
:> :> :> :>case of the twins) and do drugs (Noelle) That is front page news and top
:> :> :> :>story fodder for the major outlets. But when its Chelsea Clinton drinking
:> :> :> :>underage to the point she cant walk that isnt even reported.
:> :> :> :
:> :> :> :Perhaps because it never happened. If it wasn't reported, what makes
:> :> :> :you think it happened?
:> :> :>
:> :> :> In May there were pictures in the London Daily Mirror and the London
:> :> :> Sun of Chelsea essentially passed out in a bar.
:> :> :
:> :> :Im sorry you said "underage" when were these pictures taken? Chelsea Clifton wa
:> :> :born in Feb. 1980 which would make her 22 years old.
:> :> I'm sorry. You need to pay attention to who said what. *I* never
:> :> said she was underage. But one hardly becomes a booze hound
:> :> overnight.
:> :Yes Chris made the original claim but you claimed to provide the documentary proof o
:> :the original claim
:> Where did I claim that?
:> :": In May there were pictures in the London Daily Mirror and the
:> :London Sun of Chelsea essentially passed out in a bar" .
:> And THAT was a statement of fact.
:that is correct. it is a factual statement you provided to back up the claim of undera
:drining. unfortunalty they did not.
I provided it as support that Chelsea is indeed, apparently, a
'drinker' and that it got scant coverage in the United States by the
very paper that has made a business out of pursuing the Bush
daughters, which was the real issue.
:> :That makes it "your" claim.
:> What I 'claimed' was a documented fact.
:which you provided to support the claim
Which I provided to show the bias of American media.
:> :On an instrument you can sue both the maker and the endorser.
:> And as a lawyer, lies and distortions are apparently your stock in
:personal abuse noted
It's not personal abuse when it's the truth, Vince. You're claiming
facts not in evidence. What would YOU call that?
:> :second, the inference that a 22 year old drunk has a history of underage drinking is
:> :not supportable.
:> Oh, of course not. People just suddenly decide to go out and drink
:> themselves into unconsciousness on a whim every day. Sure they do.
:actually they do. Its a particular problem wiht inexperi3enced drinkers.
Sometimes. But it's not the first time this has happened with
:> :public drunkenness is just as likely for the inexperienced, if not
:> :more.So your "proof"
:> I said nothing about 'proving' anything. You need to blot now, or all
:> that foaming at the mouth is going to short out your keyboard.
:no you offered documentary support for a false assertion.
No, I offered documentary support for the bias of the US media, which
was the issue.
At this point you are verging on lying, Vince. I'd suggest you might
want to use some slightly more conditional language when stating
someone else's motivations.
:> :is irelevant to the claim and your failure to include the fact
:> :that she was overage at the time of the incident undercuts your credibility
:> I gave date and time. I also didn't specify what colour her panties
:> were that day. Presumably that also "undercuts my credibility"?
:you gave the date and time of a story in support of the claim . they story does nto
:support the claim
I gave the date and time of a story that supported the bias of the US
media, which was the point of the whole discussion.
:either you knew it in which case you were lying
:or you didint read the sotry, in whcih case you were negligent.
You're a liar, Vince. Not only that, you're a POOR liar.
:> :Case dismissed
:> I don't recall you being the judge, although I'm sure that's your
:> preference. I also don't recall bringing a 'case'. I related a FACT.
:> Sorry that such simple concepts are apparently too much for you.
:your related the fact as if it suported the claim. it doesnt
I related the fact as it supported the claim of US media bias, as
evidenced by the scant coverage Chelsea falling down drunk got in this
country (to the extent that you weren't even aware of it, apparently).
I've never found your variety of liar particularly appealing, Vince.
What you do
When it counts.
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