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From: Fred J. McCall
Subject: Re: [NEWS]: Probe: U.S. Knew of Jet Terror Plots
Organization: is for people who don't have real work to do
References: <3D919151.firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
:"Steve" wrote in message
:> Why, based on what you and Vince are saying no crime has been committed.
:> there can be no perpetrator.
:No prior to a trial there's a suspected crime, the fact that it
:really is a crime is still being argued about.
It may still be being argued about, but whether or not there was
ACTUALLY a crime isn't affected by all the arguing.
:> On a simpler level, running a red light is a strict liability offense.
:> is, No intent is required. So either you did or didn't. Which I think this
:> whole overly long threat is about.
:And the court is who decides whether you did it or not.
Under law. Their decision doesn't change whether you actually did it
:> The world does not operate in a vacuum. In reality people commit crimes
:> defined in every legal dictionary and law school text and several codes)
:> are never arrested. That does not change the fact the a violation of the
:> law occurred.
:In fact it does. Until the trial all that we know is something
:happened under suspicious circumstances.
That may be all we know, but the facts don't change based on what we
(think we) know.
:For example we had a scare in the village I live in when a
:scholl teacher reported a car driver dragging a screaming
:child into a car and driving away. She took the number
:and the police sent out immediate calls to stop the vehicle.
:Obviously a crime right ?
:Well no actually, the kid had fallen and cut her leg on
:a broken bottle and the driver was her father who was traced
:at the local A&E unit were his daughter was getting her
But note that the FACTS didn't change. The facts were the facts. Not
knowing them doesn't make them disappear.
What you do
When it counts.
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