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From: Vince Brannigan
Subject: Re: [NEWS]: Probe: U.S. Knew of Jet Terror Plots
> Now the fireman is traffic.
The fireman is directing the vehicles. Traffic is the flow of vehicles. The
fireman is controlling the traffic
> Please. So he is in an intersection, car on
> fire. He directs you through the red light.
If the fire is in the intersection itself there are different rules.. This is
normally covered under separate statutes on the "scene of a fire", which gives
the fire commander plenary power on the scene. .
The other lane is blocked so
> it cant go anyway. Guess you don't go. The fireman is not traffic. And if
> he is not blocking your lane then I guess there is no conflict. So you could
> drive on.
"The fireman is always "directing traffic" you have to act in accordance with
> This is all for me. I am killing this thread because the simple fact you
> have an unreal view of the law. At no time in law school or in the practice
> of law have I ever seen anyone, including a few on the edge jail house
> lawyers, come up with the unrealistic and insane attempts to twist the law,
> its purpose and meanings the way you have in this thread. Yes thats just my
> opinion, as this thread has been yours. I would argue that mine would (and
> do) hold water in court, and yours would not.
> Good night
The laws give specific privileges to marked fire department vehicles and give
the authority to override traffic signals to police officers The legal
requirement that fire department vehicles only go through red lights while
showing lights and sirens is inconsistent with your claim that fireman have the
authority to order unmarked vehicles through red lights without such lights and
sirens, especially when under the statute such authority is specifically limited
to police officers. I lecture regularly at the US Fire Academy in Emmitsburg
Maryland. This issue was the subject of a nationally published Column in the
journal "Fire Chief" earlier this year. Circulation is 47,000. Not one letter
or reply suggested that I was incorrect in my analysis. I realize that Lawyers
can disagree, But when I am driving down the road and see a green light I do not
expect to encounter a unmarked civilian vehicle starting up through that light
because a fire truck I cannot see is coming up behind them.
Prof. Vincent M. Brannigan
Department of Fire Protection Engineering
University of Maryland, College Park Md.
Fire Risk Engineering
Glasgow Caledonian University
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