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From: Vince Brannigan
Subject: Re: [NEWS]: Probe: U.S. Knew of Jet Terror Plots
References: Vince Brannigan wrote:
> :"Fred J. McCall" wrote:
> :> Vince Brannigan wrote:
> :> :"Fred J. McCall" wrote:
> :> :
> :> :> Vince Brannigan wrote:
> :> :>
> :> :> :"Fred J. McCall" wrote:
> :> :> :
> :> :> :> lparker@NOSPAM.emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
> :> :> :>
> :> :> :> :In article <%7Ni9.firstname.lastname@example.org>,
> :> :> :> : "Chris" wrote:
> :> :> :> :>
> :> :> :> :>The same liberal media that will take the Bush twins or Noelle Bush and han
> :> :> :> :>them in the center of town because they have had a couple of beers (in the
> :> :> :> :>case of the twins) and do drugs (Noelle) That is front page news and top
> :> :> :> :>story fodder for the major outlets. But when its Chelsea Clinton drinking
> :> :> :> :>underage to the point she cant walk that isnt even reported.
> :> :> :> :
> :> :> :> :Perhaps because it never happened. If it wasn't reported, what makes
> :> :> :> :you think it happened?
> :> :> :>
> :> :> :> In May there were pictures in the London Daily Mirror and the London
> :> :> :> Sun of Chelsea essentially passed out in a bar.
> :> :> :
> :> :> :Im sorry you said "underage" when were these pictures taken? Chelsea Clifton
> :> :> :born in Feb. 1980 which would make her 22 years old.
> :> :>
> :> :> I'm sorry. You need to pay attention to who said what. *I* never
> :> :> said she was underage. But one hardly becomes a booze hound
> :> :> overnight.
> :> :
> :> :Yes Chris made the original claim but you claimed to provide the documentary proof
> :> :the original claim
> :> Where did I claim that?
> :> :": In May there were pictures in the London Daily Mirror and the
> :> :London Sun of Chelsea essentially passed out in a bar" .
> :> And THAT was a statement of fact.
> :that is correct. it is a factual statement you provided to back up the claim of unde
> :drining. unfortunalty they did not.
> I provided it as support that Chelsea is indeed, apparently, a
> 'drinker' and that it got scant coverage in the United States by the
> very paper that has made a business out of pursuing the Bush
> daughters, which was the real issue.
The bush daughters were in violation of the law. The claim was made that Chelsea Clinto
also in violation of the law i.e. underage drinking. you provided a supposed cite to su
the claim made by another. it does not support the claim. I pointed that out. you hav
abusive in response.
> :> :That makes it "your" claim.
> :> What I 'claimed' was a documented fact.
> :which you provided to support the claim
> Which I provided to show the bias of American media.
except that by supporting a claim of unlawful behavior with a cite that does nto show un
behavior, you not only did nto show the bias of the american media, but the length you w
to to manufacture bias. eitehr that or the negligence with with you read the source you
> :> :On an instrument you can sue both the maker and the endorser.
> :> And as a lawyer, lies and distortions are apparently your stock in
> :> trade.
> :personal abuse noted
> It's not personal abuse when it's the truth, Vince. You're claiming
> facts not in evidence. What would YOU call that?
I'm not claiming any facts not in evidence. The trhead is there for the world to read
I caugut you in a deception and now your are replyin with abuse
> :no you offered documentary support for a false assertion.
> No, I offered documentary support for the bias of the US media, which
> was the issue.
no becsue the claim was that the media ignored unlawful behavior
you provided a cite that purported to support the cliam. it does nto.
> At this point you are verging on lying, Vince. I'd suggest you might
> want to use some slightly more conditional language when stating
> someone else's motivations.
the threadis there for anyone to see. I have said that I do not know if you were intent
> :> :is irelevant to the claim and your failure to include the fact
> :> :that she was overage at the time of the incident undercuts your credibility
> :> I gave date and time. I also didn't specify what colour her panties
> :> were that day. Presumably that also "undercuts my credibility"?
> :you gave the date and time of a story in support of the claim . they story does nto
> :support the claim
> I gave the date and time of a story that supported the bias of the US
> media, which was the point of the whole discussion.
no the claim was unlawful behavior was not reported
But when its Chelsea Clinton drinking
:> :> :> :>underage to the point she cant walk that isnt even reported.
> :either you knew it in which case you were lying
> :or you didint read the sotry, in whcih case you were negligent.
> You're a liar, Vince. Not only that, you're a POOR liar.
personal abse noted. Teh thread is therefore all to see
> :> :Case dismissed
> :> I don't recall you being the judge, although I'm sure that's your
> :> preference. I also don't recall bringing a 'case'. I related a FACT.
> :> Sorry that such simple concepts are apparently too much for you.
> :your related the fact as if it suported the claim. it doesnt
> I related the fact as it supported the claim of US media bias, as
> evidenced by the scant coverage Chelsea falling down drunk got in this
> country (to the extent that you weren't even aware of it, apparently).
> :appeal dismissed
> I've never found your variety of liar particularly appealing, Vince.
perosnal abuse noted. attempt to change the basis for the claim noted,
permission to amedn the claim deined for lack of foundation . the word underage was
highlighted in the first respone. Since clarificaiton could have been made at that time
attemtop to change the basis is untiel and dismissed.
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