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From: "Keith Willshaw"
Subject: Re: [NEWS]: Probe: U.S. Knew of Jet Terror Plots
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 07:26:08 +0100
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NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 06:26:05 +0000 (UTC)
"Steve" wrote in message
> > I agree with Vince in so far as it takes a court judgement
> > to decide a crime has been committed but disagree if he
> > insists that only a trial in a criminal court can decide that.
> > However its clear that a criminal court has the final
> > word. Say for example that the coroners court declares
> > a averdict of unlawful killing, a defendant is arrested and put
> > on trial and is acquitted on the grounds of self defense.
> > In that case no crime was committed despite the
> > finding of the coroners court.
> > Keith
> This means the Court made a finding of an individuals legal guilt or lack
> proof thereof.
No sir read it again
> It does not alter the facts.
Quite true. The 'fact' is still that a man is dead but the court has
decided that the act of killing was lawful and not a crime.
> I think the main argument has
> been, the old if a tree falls and no one is there does it make a noise.
> no one witnesses the event and no court ever has a hearing or trial does
> change the fact that a crime occurred. Vince maintains no crime. I
> a crime occurred for which no conviction was had.
On the contrary in the example I quoted no crime would have
been committed if the court found that the accused acted
in self defense. The coroners court made an error and should
have brought in a finding of justifiable homicide.
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