From: "Lisa Gardner"
Subject: Re: Scientists baffled by increase in autism
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 15:41:09 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 08:41:09 PDT
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net
"Pontifex Maximus" wrote in message
> Remember the birthing method of "Dr. Frederick Leboyer"?*
> "being touched and caressed, being massaged
> is food for the infant, food as necessary
> as minerals, vitamins and proteins"
> (Frederick Leboyer)
> "Tom" wrote:
> > "Lisa Gardner" wrote:
> > >
> > > No, I am saying that there is an attitude in the
> > > world that emotions 'get in the way'.
> > > This attitude is leading to infants that don't
> > > have that troublesome characteristic, emotions,
> > > around for anyone to deal with.
> > Sounds like LaMarckism.
> > http://www.xrefer.com/entry/489583
> It sounds more like Lisa is expressing early infant trauma,
> pre-verbal. An infant needs to form an attachment that nurtures
> full emotional development, not repression.
If nyou are talking about my own infancy, I had a good infancy,
was loved by my mother and cared for. My dad was absent for
some of the time in vietnam, though, so it was mostly my mother
I was born on nov 20th, 1962 at Ft. Bragg during the very
end of the cuban missle crisis. My mom says that she had her
bags all packed and ready to go out into the desert should
the big shit hit. My dad was on alert - he was a green beret
officer and so was probably right in the heat of things.
So I was gestated right in the heat of all of that stuff. Maybe
*that* is part of what I am expressing.
And maybe I *really am* having the *shit* beaten out of me
and things are happening to me that some people know about,
but *don't want to talk about* because even though all of this shit
is *happening to me*, *I myself am not supposed to be 'in on it'*.
If that is the case then I have to say: that is a *very* fucked up
attitude and *I do not want to be involved with people who have
that attitude towards what is going on, how I am involved in it,
or towards me myself*. Period. I deserve and need honesty.
>So "Natural Selection"
> has less to do with it,
People who are willing to hurt and maim and abuse others
because doing so will fulfill their own agendas, probably have
quite a lot to do with it.
>probably, than simply warmth withheld at
> a critical juncture of earliest brain development.
Warmth was not withheld from me at the earliest stages. It
wasn't until I got older - probably about 7 or 8 years old -
that things went bad. This was after my dad come home
from vietnam and my mom and dad were in a car accident
that left my mom in a coma for a month or so.
I have had dreams that after that car accident, there was
a demon riding my mother that just has not *really* even
left her yet, even though presently she is trying - I think -
to get along with me. I had dreams that this demon would
'ride' on my mother and would encourage her to act abusively
>Or, maybe, weird
> little entities are incarnating at exponential rates, in order to
> experience Earth Therapy .
I don't think that is funny, *and I and I am sure the rest of the
earth*, *don't want to be used for others' purposes without
our consent*. This is what I think and feel and desire: that
neither I nor anyone else here is used to serve anyone else's
agendas, *without their consent*.
Weird little entities can be sweet little things. I have met a few
of them 'out there', and they have problems with feeling that they
will be accepted, etc. because of the 'look of their souls' and
'other bodies', etc. It is sad. They come here predisposed to
feeling badly about themselves, and then *what I think happens*
is that the corporate hate machine - both on planet and off planet -
situates their lives so that things are *extra*, extra hard for them
and so that those around them are abusive towards them. It
then can put them all into situations in which they develop a
personality that is *easy to manipulate* for those corporate
and then the corporate concerns use them and manipulate
them in order to serve their own agendas.
I would not want to live in a world where this happened all
of the time. Anywhere where this is happening - if it is - then
it *should stop*.
Lisa Agnes Gardner